Obama's Fundraising Down?

Sam Stein reports that Obama's fundraising may be slowing a bit:

Major donors to Barack Obama's campaign were told Wednesday evening that fundraising efforts were "a little slow" and that they should help retire Hillary Clinton's campaign debt so that the New York Democrat's supporters would, in turn, give to Obama.

"There was no negativity about Hillary," said one Democrat. "In fact the opposite. Fundraising is a little slow and it is very important to ramp it up. Hillary donors are a major source of donor dollars. The message to the troops was 'Get your five checks for Hillary in so that you can ask her donors to give to Barack.'"

This while McCain reports that he and the RNC have a combined total of nearly $100 million in the bank, and expect to raise twice that amount before the convention.

On the face of it, this would seem like a strange month for Obama's fundraising to slow. Normally, the month after securing the nomination is the best month for a nominee of either party.

However, I did start to wonder about the nature of Obama's small donor funding network. While I may be proven wrong, it seems to me that the most compelling time to give, for small donors especially, would be right in the middle of a hard fought campaign with lots of media coverage. And in fact, it was during the toughest months of the primary that Obama raked in the most cash.

The problem with the general election is that it offers no such incentives, in the form of make-or-break primaries, to spur donations. Hence, Obama has to go to the network of big donors, which may be why June's numbers may not meet expectations.

And if they don't, expect a flurry of media stories over whether Obama's decision to opt out of public financing was the right one.



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Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (2.00 / 2)

He also is probably suffering from a number of folks who have shut off the spigot for a while.

It wasn't FISA for me, but I am STILL pissed about the Faith Based Pandering.

A number of Kossacks along with their leader have said, they are witholding fund-age (must have been a bad batch of Kool-aid, eh?)

I haven't sent him any money in July, but paycheck hit today, so who knows what tomorrow may bring?


My mom believed in Jesus, the Pope and FDR..... Just not necessarily in that order.
by WashStateBlue on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 06:20:29 PM EST

Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (2.00 / 1)

It's not pandering.  Obama started his career out in that sort of organization, became a Christian through it, and has spent the last 20 years (including much of the primary campaign) speaking and writing about progressive issues through that lens.  I'm seriously amazed at the number of people around here that apparently haven't paid any attention to anything he's ever said or done.


by Whash on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 08:02:33 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (none / 0)

Or they've shut off the spigots because things keep getting worse and worse for everyone and money's just tight all over.


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 11:16:30 PM EST
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Would the economy have (2.00 / 1)

anything to do with people's ability to give money to Senator Obama?


by SocialDem on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 06:20:37 PM EST

yeah (2.00 / 4)

but that would make sense, so let's ignore that theory.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 06:27:49 PM EST
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Ha (none / 0)

So were you opposed to him not taking public financing?


by SocialDem on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 07:11:13 PM EST
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I tend to lean Libertarian (2.00 / 1)

I'm not to thrilled with government funding elections, but I understand why we do it, so to me, the issue isn't even an issue. I could care less either way.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 07:16:09 PM EST
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Fair enough, (none / 0)

Being socially (lower case "l") libertarian I tend to agree with you. However, that position is more idealism the realistic. Realistically a campaign without public financing tends to be a campaign of big moneyed interests. I do think the current system is broken however with the loop holes of 527's. Though I do like the idea of letting the people have their freedom in donating their money. In other words, I too am agnostic.


by SocialDem on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 07:19:46 PM EST
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Re: Would the economy have (none / 0)

If the economy were the cause then McCain's fundraising would be down too.


"No matter what happens, I will work for the nominee of the Democratic Party because we must win in November." -Hillary Clinton
by fugazi on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 08:36:49 PM EST
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Re: Would the economy have (1.50 / 2)

Sure about that?


by username on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 09:43:21 PM EST
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Re: Would the economy have (none / 0)

Nice retaliatory ratings, roxfoxy.  I TRed you because you were being a jerk to posters in your own diary.  I only hit 2 of your many rude comments.


by username on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 09:49:48 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (2.00 / 1)

My guess is that he is in a similar position to Hillary Clinton's before Iowa. He is the front runner, most people assume he will win, and his fundraising prowess is so renowned that few people may think he needs their help.


by souvarine on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 06:24:04 PM EST

Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (2.00 / 1)

If the June numbers are down it could spur the pace of online donations. To tell the truth, I'm not surprised donations from small donors are down a bit. People are trying to catch their breath after the primaries. I know I haven't donated anything since late May. I plan on making at several donations over the next couple of months. As much as I can spare. I'm not going to worry unless the convention doesn't bring a big influx of donations.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 06:25:24 PM EST

Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (none / 0)

This may be of little solace, but didn't Kerry outraise Bush in '04?


by NewOaklandDem on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 06:26:31 PM EST

Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (2.00 / 3)

Yes.

Still, I am not worried about Obama and money, I worry a lot more about the "free media" that has destroyed our candidates in the past, like the reinforcment of memes like "Flip-Flopper" or all the swiftboat stuff, or Al Gore and the Internet or being a liar or...

The Repbulics didn't need to PAY for that, they just planted the seed and the media lap-dogs did the dirtywork.


My mom believed in Jesus, the Pope and FDR..... Just not necessarily in that order.
by WashStateBlue on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 06:31:26 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (none / 0)

No, he didn't.

http://www.fec.gov/press/press2005/20050 203pressum/presrec2004full.pdf

Bush raised about $40 Million more than Kerry in the primaries.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 11:10:20 PM EST
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FISA (none / 0)

I suspect that small donor has collapsed for all Democrats except Dodd, Fiengold, and a few others.


by Alice Marshall on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 06:42:39 PM EST

Re: FISA (none / 0)

How much were you contributing to Obama before FISA, Alice?

(any wagers on the amount, folks?)


My mom believed in Jesus, the Pope and FDR..... Just not necessarily in that order.
by WashStateBlue on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 06:59:57 PM EST
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Newsflash (2.00 / 2)

I have yet to find one person off these blogs who even gives a crap about FISA.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 07:00:54 PM EST
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I can personally (2.00 / 2)

point to hundreds of people that I am connected with in some way or another who do not blog and they CARE about this FISA crap.

Why? Because they CARE about the Constitution and OUR Liberties and Freedoms.


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 07:31:17 PM EST
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Re: I can personally (none / 0)

Agreed. I'm in Europe currently and people here (mostly Americans, but non-blogging Americans) care about FISA.


by Exhausted Pennsylvanian on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 09:15:18 PM EST
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Re: Newsflash (none / 0)

Assumption, nothing more.


by soyousay on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 08:20:23 PM EST
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I just tell you (none / 0)

what I hear out there. FISA doesn't even register on the issue scale and when it does, it's usually from people who don't see a problem with it.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 10:19:51 PM EST
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Re: I just tell you (none / 0)

Before Obama's run for president, progressives cared about this issue. Now it seems that the only thing that matters is getting Obama elected.


by soyousay on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 10:27:23 PM EST
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I never really cared (none / 0)

about FISA...it's not the end all be all of the fourth amendment every acts like it is. For Christ sakes, good Presidents we celebrate and worship gutted people's rights more. Let's burn Roosevelt, Lincoln and Washington in effigy because they too sold out the Constitution.

I always thought progressives were making a mountain out of a molehill on this.

And yes, the only the that matters now is getting Obama elected, because unless we get him elected, there is NO CHANCE we can make any progressive changes. Obama may disagree with us, but at least he's willing to listen and tell us how he feels. McCain would rather send us to Guantamano.  


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 10:33:06 PM EST
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Unlike you, Obama once cared (none / 0)

"Senator Obama UNEQUIVOCALLY opposes giving retroactive immunity to telecommunications companies and has cosponsored Senator Dodd's efforts to remove that provision from the FISA bill. Granting such immunity undermines the constitutional protections Americans trust the Congress to protect. Senator Obama supports a filibuster of this bill, and strongly urges others to do the same. It's not clear whether he can return for the vote, but under the Senate rules, the side trying to end a filibuster must produce 60 votes to cut off debate. Whether he is present for the vote or not, Senator Obama will not be among those voting to end the filibuster." http://obama.senate.gov/press/071217-sta tement_from_2/

unequivocally -adj.
unequivocal - Admitting of no doubt or misunderstanding; clear and unambiguous


by soyousay on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 10:50:00 PM EST
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Re: Unlike you, Obama once cared (none / 0)

adv


by soyousay on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 10:53:18 PM EST
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and if you look at it more clearly (none / 0)

you'd see that he left open the possibility of voting for a bill in the end should it get to the floor of the Senate by not even being there. His opposition was vocal.

He did exactly what I thought he was going to do. No surprise here. There are bigger fish to fry.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 11:15:57 PM EST
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Heh.... (none / 0)

He did exactly what I thought he was going to do. No surprise here.
He is a typical politician. He'll do whatever he needs to in order to win.


by soyousay on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 11:22:36 PM EST
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Yes (none / 0)

just like all of them. Just like Kerry, Gore, the Clintons. That's all I've been saying from Day fucking One. They have to win before they can do anything, so they will do whatever it takes to win.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 11:27:11 PM EST
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Re: Yes (none / 0)

You just proved my point...He isn't the candidate of "change" as he claims to be. This is what Obama ran on, the others didn't.


by soyousay on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 11:31:33 PM EST
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Clinton didn't run on change? (none / 0)

When did Clinton say she's just like every other politician and she's not running on change? If she did at some point, I'll apologize for not supporting her since that would change my opinion on her completely.

I remember her also saying she was change. Even McCain is running as change.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 01:18:56 AM EST
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Give me a break.... (none / 0)

Obama is the "change and hope" candidate. He has it plastered everywhere.


by soyousay on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 08:41:01 AM EST
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and she what (none / 0)

the "I'm just another politician" candidate.

She tried to the change and hope thing to. It just stuck to him.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 12:56:19 AM EST
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Re: and she what (none / 0)

She is "just another politician" and so is he... whether you like it or not. The only difference between the two is she knows what she's talking about and he doesn't know what he's talking about.


by soyousay on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 03:42:49 PM EST
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Here's the outcome of his actions (none / 0)

"Barack Obama Breaks Promise, Flip Flops, and supports Telco?s" http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2008/07/09/AR2008070902055. html


by soyousay on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 11:29:45 PM EST
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The far left (none / 0)

is pissed at him? Isn't that a good thing. Weren't you guys the ones who said you can't win with the support of the far left?


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 01:19:46 AM EST
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Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (2.00 / 1)

Hey I donate $50 last night. Oh that was to pay off the Clinton debt. As far as Obama goes:

"Money's tight
  Times are hard
  All you get
  is an XMAS card"

His supporters want to break with tradition, fine I can break my tradition too. My tradition of donating to whoever is the Democratic nominee just got broken.


"Do you know the difference between a War Story and a Fairy Tale?"
by RedstateLib on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 06:42:41 PM EST

Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (2.00 / 1)

Wow! Me too! And today again! I got two T-shirts!


by SophieL on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 09:41:46 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (2.00 / 1)

I know you find
My fees obscene,
But you just paid.
See ya in '16!

XOXO,
Mark


by username on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 09:47:08 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (none / 0)

I have to admit that I too haven't donated yet.

I think alot of the small donors are like me, we think hey he can get through the summer just fine, and starting in the fall we will be thre donating.

I expect Obama to start pulling in primary numbers starting late september, when his donors who are sitting back, start getting more excited and we start pumping in the donations.


Obama said, as Bill beamed. "Thank you, President Clinton."
by TruthMatters on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 06:55:11 PM EST

Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (none / 0)

I guess the question is whether he needs the money now or whether it will be just as good later.


by animated on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 06:58:12 PM EST
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It's not just as good later because... (none / 0)

...both primary AND general money can be spent in the general, but general money cannot be spent now.

Meaning, right now one who has given nothing can give $4600, designated as half for the primary and half for the general.  Obama can spend up to half, $2300, now.

But after the last day of the convention, that same donor, if not having given anything yet, can give only $2300.


by DCCyclone on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 07:40:07 PM EST
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Err, the article is talking about (none / 0)

Obama donors relieving Hillary's debt, not Obama fundraising in general


by verbatim on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 07:24:43 PM EST

It is summer (2.00 / 3)

gas prices are high and less people are paying attention. Check out the blog traffic.

WE all need to start donating to the DNC as much as we do to Obama.

The DNC is what started the 50 State Strategy, which in turn helped Obama, and in some ways Clinton, during the primaries.

The DNC helps with the felid offices and the local, county and state races.

WE must do better.

Please donate to the DNC


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 07:25:57 PM EST

Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (2.00 / 1)

Once the Clinton hate from Obama supporters goes away so does the flow of money. This was very predictable.


by bsavage on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 07:40:28 PM EST

Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (none / 0)

There are some things that I do "worry" about.
Our nominee out raising McWars and the GOP isn't one the list...
It really gets going after Obama's speech in front of 85,000 here in Denver

after that it will be
tear the roof off the sucker(funk the war)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-qhQbYwD Ok  


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 07:50:34 PM EST

Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (none / 0)

Not sure if people are reading this article correctly.  It's about fundraising being slow for retiring Hillary's debt, not about Obama raising money for the general.


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 10:22:00 PM EST

We have to pay $3 million for his stadium (none / 0)

the man needs a stadium because a 20,000 capacity convention hall is not big enough. He needs 75,000 adoring fans, not a paultry 20,000.


by catfish2 on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 11:45:22 PM EST

Re: We have to pay $3 million for his stadium (2.00 / 1)

The Irony is his supporters will whine that she spent to much money on nothing but ego and the are not going to help pay it off. Then His people whine for Clintons supporters to donate so he can afford $3 million for a stadium just to feed his ego. What do you think if his campaign is broke coming out of the convention how many "principles" will he abandon to fill the war chest?


"Do you know the difference between a War Story and a Fairy Tale?"
by RedstateLib on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 12:26:36 AM EST
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Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (none / 0)

Posted in another diary, but it fits here as well, so I'm reposting it here.

Exactly what more do people expect Obama to do??

He asked his people to give to Clinton.  It's their money, from their hardwork (or just wealth), from their pocketbooks.  What else does Obama need to do??

As we've learned from the PUMA people, just because a candidate says to "support" the nominee, doesn't mean that they will.  Barack or Hilary for that matter does not control the minds and hands of their supporters (contrary to all the "kool-aid" talk).  Barack cannot "stand" over each of his millions of donors and "force" them to pay Hilary's debt. He asked, and I would bet that more than a few have responded and given to Hilary and a few have not.  Just like Hilary asking her supporters to support Obama, more than a few have responded and are now actively supporting Obama, but a few have joined the PUMA club.  It doesn't matter how "passionately" the candidate speaks of the unity gesture, the donors are ADULTS, just like Clintons supporters are ADULTS.  Short of holding a gun to each and every one's head, neither Clinton or Obama can make GROWN ASS PEOPLE do anything they don't want to.

So I ask again, WHAT MORE DOES THE MAN HAVE TO DO????


by lamh3176 on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 12:16:34 AM EST

Re: Obama's Fundraising Down? (none / 0)

This is all the fault of these 'net roots' and their hair brain 'progressive' nonsense.

Daily 'Markos' and his pimp for fame and book sales.
Most of us just want to win elections.

They fill the media with Obama attacks and they wonder why they always lose elections.


by Makey on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:31:13 AM EST


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