Gallup: Obama opens 6 point lead

http://www.gallup.com/poll/108772/Gallup -Daily-Obama-Holds-6Point-Lead-Over-McCa in.aspx
The Gallup tracking poll had been trending towards an even split, as John McCain had pulled to within 2 points, 2 days ago. However today's poll shows Obama once again moving out to a 6 point lead 48-42. This is very much in line with a newly released Pew poll which gives Obama an 8 point lead 48-40. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/ 2008/latestpolls/index.html

Undoubtedly the polls will be all over the place as this campaign continues. There will be bumps and valleys for both candidates. However a few things seem very interesting already. Obama appears to lead in virtually all the national polls released in the last month. And furthermore in just about all of them, Obama appears to be in the high 40's, while McCain seems mired in the low 40's.

This is a nice trend, but don't start popping the champagne corks just yet. We have a long road ahead, and Obama needs whatever we can bring to the campaign in terms of money, time and energy. We can't allow the republicans to even entertain the thought that they have a chance this November. We can keep those poll numbers right where they are and even improve them for Obama, but it's going to take one big, united effort.  



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Gallup has been susceptible (none / 0)

to events that have caused wild fluctuations after Obama became the presumptive nominee, despite being stable throughout the primary season.  To what could Gallup, assuming that it's not just random statistical noise, attribute this bounce?

1) Gramm gaffe on economcy

  1. McCain gaffe on Viagra/birth control
  2. Obama/Hillary in NYC
  3. Jackson turning Obama into the candidate of personal and parental responsibility


by Blazers Edge on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:17:51 PM EST

Re: Gallup has been susceptible (none / 0)

Not sure if any of those besides Jackson has made it throughout the MSM.  Then again, my only teevee is some brief morning MSNBC/CNN (meh) and KO and Abrams at night so I have no idea (My girl had CNN on when I visited her the other night and it was all Jesse).  all but 2 seem to hit MSNBC but don't knwo about the rest.
So maybe JJ/Whiners?
Democrat for the democratic nominee
by KLRinLA on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:24:00 PM EST
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Re: Gallup has been susceptible (none / 0)

The Grammm gaffe has gotten some coverage.


The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson
by pollbuster on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:27:49 PM EST
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Re: Gallup has been susceptible (none / 0)

I saw it on MSNBC, not sure if it had play anywhere else - GOOD.  That was a stinger too. By itself it was bad for McCain, but it allowed Obama to hit back onit too.  Double whammy, excellent


Democrat for the democratic nominee
by KLRinLA on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 08:09:53 PM EST
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Re: Gallup has been susceptible (none / 0)

I have a feeling that the Gramm remark is going to be the gift that keeps on giving.  That's McCain's economic guru and his statements have policy implications.

And it's another opportunity for people to be reminded that John McCain said he needed help on the economy.  And for him to angrily deny it.  And for the press to play the tape, again.


by MeganLocke on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 11:10:29 PM EST
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Re: Gallup has been susceptible (none / 0)

Good points all. Perhaps it's a combination of all four, with the edge, in my view, going to the Gramm gaffe on the economy.


The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson
by pollbuster on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:26:30 PM EST
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Re: Gallup has been susceptible (none / 0)

Allof the above is probably a good explanation.


by spirowasright on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:41:23 PM EST
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Gallup also (none / 0)

fluctuated wildly after the Obama/Hillary event in New Hampshire and the Wes Clark incident. Hopefully, Gallup will stabilize and Obama can maintain a pretty good lead of six, the same margin that Big Daddy defeated Bush Sr. with in 1992.


by Blazers Edge on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:46:42 PM EST
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Re: Gallup has been susceptible (none / 0)

A gaffe is a misstatement that embarrassingly reveals a politician's lack of knowledge on a subject. What Gramm said was no gaffe--he meant exactly what he said from his ivory tower, and is standing by it. Gaffes are forgivable. Being a piece of crap is not.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 05:39:06 PM EST
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Re: Gallup has been susceptible (none / 0)

True; I think it would be more helpful for Obama to make the point that McCain has made similar statements to Gramm about psychological effects and the economy.  I don't think Gramm can serve as McCain's Jeremiah Wright yet, though we may get to that point if Gramm keeps on talking.


by Blazers Edge on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 05:43:21 PM EST
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Of course he can't serve as McCain's Rev. Wright, because Gramm isn't a craaaaaazy, scary black guy.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 05:47:22 PM EST
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Re: Gallup has been susceptible (none / 0)

They won't even drill this like "bitter-gate" even though what Obama said was essentially true, and what Gramm said was just the bloated rumblings of an out of touch oligarch and arrogant rich prick.

We had Bitter gate, for, what two weeks?

This will be gone by Monday. (sadly)


"Well the danger on the rocks is surely past... Still I remain tied to the mast"...Don Fagen, Poet and Piano Player
by WashStateBlue on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 05:53:58 PM EST
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Re: Gallup has been susceptible (2.00 / 1)

Absolutely correct on both counts.


The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson
by pollbuster on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 08:52:32 PM EST
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Re: Gallup: Obama opens 6 point lead (2.00 / 1)

Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday is reporting the opposite, showing Obama's lead over McCain shrinking to 1 point, 43% to 42%, the first time his support has fallen below the 45% level since May 31. With leaners, it's 47% - 45%, a low point for Obama and a high point for McCain.

The polls have been, and continue to be, all over the place, yes.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c ontent/politics/election_20082/2008_pres idential_election/daily_presidential_tra cking_poll


by phoenixdreamz on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:34:21 PM EST

Rasmussen has been in a (none / 0)

feud with gallup since Obama became the presumptive nominee.  Rasmussen has been stable for the most part with Obama at 49 for three weeks while McCain fluctated between 43 and 45 but Obama has fallen off this week.

Gallup meanwhile has been anything but stable, jumping all over the map as if certain events (Hillary/Obama in NH, Wes Clark incident, Gramm gaffe) can cause bumps.


by Blazers Edge on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:44:55 PM EST
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Re: Gallup: Obama opens 6 point lead (none / 0)

Obama hasn't trailed in the polls for weeks.  Sure, some are within the MOE, but the trends and averages point to the fact that he's got about a four to nine point lead over McCain.  Nice try though!


by NewOaklandDem on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:46:16 PM EST
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It's in the bag! White House here we come!! (none / 0)

Yeeehhhaw!!


by catfish2 on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:42:33 PM EST

Re: It's in the bag! White House here we come!! (2.00 / 1)

Does news like this make you sick to your stomach, or does it spur you on to do more for McCain?


by MeganLocke on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 11:12:15 PM EST
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Re: Gallup: Obama opens 6 point lead (none / 0)

Good to see. Sure glad the Blog Birchers have his back.
On second thought......
by spirowasright on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:43:05 PM EST

Re: Gallup: Obama opens 6 point lead (2.00 / 1)

I'd like to see Obama break 50 before the convention.  


by Drummond on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 05:18:07 PM EST

I believe he did (2.00 / 1)

I'm not sure it was Gallup, but at some point this week with leaners, he was leasing 50%-45%.

The one thing I want to point out is that I don't think I've ever seen McCain higher than 45%. He's really going to have to win a huge majority of undecideds to even have a shot at victory.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 05:24:26 PM EST
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Re: Gallup: Obama opens 6 point lead (none / 0)

In my view, you should ignore individual polls and look at the poll averages at pollster.com and realclearpolitics.com.

The only reason to look at individual polls is to look at the internal data -- breakdowns of specific questions other than preference and demographics.


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by politicsmatters on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 05:32:35 PM EST

It's always better to be ahead than behind... (none / 0)

but after the conventions is when polls begin to have real veracity.


by Beren on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 05:54:16 PM EST

Polling is getting scary (none / 0)

As of late I've heard both Peter Hart and Zogby talk about the difficult in obtaining reliable and predictive sampling. The problem is of course that people habits/patterns with telephony have changed rather dramatically over the past decade. Voicemail and cell phones ( which can not be called for polling purposes) have create an incomplete picture of the electorate.

The honest fact is that polls are all over the place because no one really knows how to reach people. The exit polls were very illuminating because they were face to face with actual live voters, who had in fact, just voted.

From now until November pollsters are really flying blind.
Perhaps a better way to judge is the flow of contributions to the candidates. It was certainly an accurate predictor of the dem primary.

And as we all know, the national numbers are useless since Barack can run up huge margins in some states and lose marginally in swing states, with the net result of a popular win and an electoral loss.


Cindy is John McCain's Personal GI Bill
by demwords on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 06:53:40 PM EST

Re: Polling is getting scary (2.00 / 1)

I am ignoring the polls for a number of reasons?

I doubt any of the millenials are being polled, too mobile, at school, cell phones.

Hell, I haven't had a land line in years, I never get polled.

"And as we all know, the national numbers are useless since Barack can run up huge margins in some states and lose marginally in swing states, with the net result of a popular win and an electoral loss.

Or "And as we all know, the national numbers are useless since Barack can run up huge margins in some states and win marginally in swing states, with the net result of a small popular win and an electoral landslide"

I like to work on that positive mental image.


"Well the danger on the rocks is surely past... Still I remain tied to the mast"...Don Fagen, Poet and Piano Player
by WashStateBlue on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 07:11:13 PM EST
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I like your version better... (none / 0)

...I just think it is more of stretch than it looks like on this polls. The polls in Indiana show him ahead. I've been to Indiana and my gut feeling that there is no way that could be true. But those Rocky Mountain states are looking good. I think younger and more fit is a good thing in Colorado and New Mexico. It's no place for old men to win elections.

I'm disappointed that Jim Webb isn't interested in VP. A white, southern working class, economic populist, ex-military guy would be a real strength.

Of course my first choice for pres, John Edwards, would be a plus...but I'm afraid that he would have to toe the candidate's party line like he did in 2004. He's better as a number one.

the VP thing is going to be big

But I fully expect McCain to pick Romney even though he hates his guts. But Romney has the money repugs and the Bush crime family behind him.

It's strange that MSM think Romney would be strong in Mich. Even though his dad was government, Mitt's claim to fame is taking over US companies and offshoring the jobs.


Cindy is John McCain's Personal GI Bill
by demwords on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 08:28:25 PM EST
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I've learned to not push (none / 0)

what I hear around me. Around me, where I live, Obama and Clinton are both hated, FISA is popular, and the way to lower gas prices is to nuke the Middle East.

I live in New York City. From my perspective, Obama would lose New York City...and that's not going to happen.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 08:32:43 PM EST
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Re: Gallup: Obama opens 6 point lead (none / 0)

This poll combined data from July 8-10. The McCain and Gramm gaffes are too recent to have affected the results. The birth control gaffe and the 'whiners' gaffe only came out yesterday. Most people still haven't heard about them and the ones that have, other than those like us who follow closely, didn't learn about it until the evening news. It's doubtful any of the things you mentioned affected this poll. On top of that, these 'swings' in poll numbers are so small that they are meaningless. A one point increase for Obama and a one point decrease for McCain adds 2 points to the gap, but is well within the MOE. The only thing you can take from them is that Obama has led by a small margin consistently. That's encouraging, but hardly anything to get excited about.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 08:00:29 PM EST


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