Obama Continues to Be Competitive in Virginia, North Carolina

Rasmussen Reports on Virginia:

The presidential race in Virginia is now dead even, with Barack Obama and John McCain each drawing 44% of the vote, according to a new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of voters in the state.

If "leaners" are factored in, McCain leads by a statistically insignificant one percentage point 48% to 47%.

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In five of the last six polls, Obama and McCain have been within five points of each other. Only in March with the Jeremiah Wright controversy raging did the Republican candidate jump ahead significantly -- by 11 points.

And on North Carolina:

The race is still close between John McCain and Barack Obama in the traditionally red state of North Carolina. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey finds McCain ahead 45% to 42% in the Tar Heel State. When "leaners" are included, McCain leads 48% to 45%.

McCain led by two points last month and by three points in May. The two candidates were tied at 47% in April. North Carolina has voted for Republican candidates in nine out of the last ten Presidential elections. In 2004, George W. Bush won the state by a 56% to 44% margin. The race between Obama and McCain is also very close on the national level, where Obama is currently leading 44% to 42% in the Rasmussen Daily Presidential Tracking Poll.

Both of the surveys show that Barack Obama's favorable/unfavorable numbers appear to be harder at this juncture than those of John McCain -- a thought-provoking set of data considering it is McCain who has been on the political scene for the past three decades, and the past several years in particular, and Obama who broke out nationally just within the last few years.

These numbers, if correct, seem to suggest to me, then, that Obama still has quite a bit of room to try to define McCain as the Republican has apparently not yet been successful in completely defining himself with the electorate despite the fact that he has invested heavily in the past month or so on bio spots. Of course the opposite is true, too; McCain does still have time to define himself as well. But while there is a tendency to believe that it is preferable to save up for the last month or two of the general election rather than spend big in the summer months, if Obama can shape voters views of McCain now -- both in these key reddish-purple states, without which McCain cannot win, as well as across the country -- Obama's chances of winning come November could be greatly increased.



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Crosstabs are sketchy (none / 0)

It's worth noting African Americans made up 15% of voters in the Virginia crosstabs.  This is lower than usual as, in 2004, they were 22% of Virginia voters.   Ras must be assuming there's a massive white counter-mobilization.


by Homebrewer on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 02:43:50 PM EST

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Here is where the incredible Obama fundraising figures posted in June will have a direct, overwhelming impact.

Think back to John Kerry in 2004:  His campaign secured the Nomination on Super Tuesday March 3, 2004, when he had just begun to make the payments on the $6M mortgage he secured on his home in Boston to finance the last stages of his campaign.

The Democratic Campaign for President was essentially penniless that day.  The GOP was flush with cash, having had Bush's incomparable fundraising prowess put to work raising re-election money since the day he and Dick Cheney entered the White House.

If memory serves, Bush STARTED 2004 with over $240M, plus the money from the RNC, plus untold millions available from GOP 501c(3) and c(4)'s like the NRA.  The GOP spent nearly 1.2 BILLION dollars in the 2004 Election.  

It allowed the GOP to "define" John Kerry in every swing-state media market for months, until Kerry (almost) achieved fundraising parity with blockbuster June and July efforts with the direct help of Howard Dean's new genie in a bottle, small-donor Internet campaigning.

This campaign cycle, the shoe is on the other foot.  McCain and the RNC have to chase after Obama's copious media buys, and must spend precious money hand over fist in unlikely places just to try and stay in the fight.

Obama meanwhile keeps opening new fronts in the war on McSame, and these figures in these (formerly) secure GOP states just reflect the fact that we have them on the run.

I trust the Obama campaign will keep using its killer instinct, and will not let McBush off the floor.  Let's keep pounding his and the GOP's head into the cement until November 10, and see just how far we can dominate and extend our advantage.

I think it's time to bust open the GOP, and capitalize on this unique opportunity to set up a strong Progressive America for this generation, the generation after us, and the generation after that.

They had their chance.  They held all the advantages with Rove and DeLay and Santorum and Frist and Gingrich, and took their best shot at taking us out for good.  

Somehow, we managed to break their hold, we're up off the floor, and now, baby, it's our turn.


by dembluestates on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 03:07:20 PM EST

Re: Obama Continues to Be Competitive in Virginia, (none / 0)

There are two ways to look at this data:

1) The average North Carolinian white voter is not happy with Bush, and/or unenthusiastic about McCain, but they will end up voting for McCain.

2) Obama is a transcendental political figure and/or dissatisfaction with the GOP is so high that even dyed-in-the-wool conservatives will not vote Republican.

I tend to think the answer is in the former.  In 2004, black liberals weren't happy with Kerry in July 2004 (look it up), but they ended up voting for him in record numbers and ratios by November.  I suspect something similar will happen with white working class voters, barring a sudden change in strategy by Obama.

Virginia may be a different story, due to the failures of the GOP there, the successes of the Dems, and the changing demographic mix (Northern Virginia's explosive growth).

That being said, color me skeptical about the argument that Obama can be competitive in states like Mississippi and North Carolina.  If he's consistently above 50% in polling, I'll believe it.  But as long as he's showing pluralities rather than majorities, I'm going to assume that the undecideds in those states will break McCain.

I think Obama's wasting his money in those states, and this whole thing reeks of Kerry-esque overconfidence right now.  Have we so quickly forgotten how good the GOP is at smearing our candidates?  Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan (Florida appears to be a lost cause for Obama), as well as states like New Mexico and Colorado will be where this election is won and lost.


by RedSox04 on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 11:16:20 AM EST
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Re: Obama Continues (none / 0)

Stuff like this can only help....

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/20/sche unemann-payne/


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 03:14:41 PM EST

Re: Obama Continues to Be Competitive in Virginia, (none / 0)

With the 20 regional field offices Obama just opened across Virginia combined with the resources put forth by the Mark Warner campaign, we have a great shot of taking the state. Governor Kaine and Webb will also be out in full force campaigning hard for Obama.


by Steve24 on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 03:16:43 PM EST

Events every Weekend (2.00 / 5)

If you are in these states there are dozens of voter registration events going on every weekend.
We registered over 100 yesterday in my medium sized NC town.
by parahammer on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 04:26:12 PM EST

Great analysis (none / 0)

This is particularly important IMHO

a thought-provoking set of data considering it is McCain who has been on the political scene for the past three decades, and the past several years in particular, and Obama who broke out nationally just within the last few years.


The Moose is Loose!
by duende on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 05:17:39 PM EST

Re: Obama Continues to Be Competitive in Virginia, (none / 0)

So, am I reading this right?  Virginia and North Carolina will make up for Barry losing Ohio and Florida?  Is this your conjecture?  Are you serious?


by krj47 on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 05:35:29 PM EST

Re: Obama Continues to Be Competitive in Virginia, (2.00 / 2)

So you can predict that Obama is going to lose both Ohio and Florida?  I am not even sure why I bothered to respond to you.  If you can't see the value in having Virginia and NC being competitive for now, what is the point in trying to talk politics with you?


by Xris on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 05:39:12 PM EST
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Don't waste your time (none / 0)

Some folks insist on being obtuse.


by parahammer on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 06:12:35 PM EST
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Re: Obama Continues to Be Competitive in Virginia, (none / 0)

Lose Ohio? Really?


"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 05:57:22 PM EST
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Will you still continue to fight the primary... (none / 0)

...when he wins New Mexico, Iowa and Colorado and thus the presidency? ''But, Hillary would have won Arkansas''. Who gives a shit!


by conspiracy on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 07:15:59 PM EST
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Re: Will you still continue to fight the primary.. (none / 0)

Not to mention that Hillary wouldn't have had a shot in Montana, Virginia, Indiana, and Nevada. We can still take Arkansas if we put Hillary on the ticket.


by Steve24 on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 07:47:58 PM EST
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Re: Obama Continues to Be Competitive in Virginia, (none / 0)

Absolutely.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 10:46:10 PM EST
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Aside: New Voter Registrations (none / 0)

Not to mention:


And just this week, Rhodes Cook, who writes for Larry Sabato's Crystal Ball, published an invaluable study that is the best glimpse yet of who is likely to be voting this fall. Cook did a deep dive in the new registrations from the 29 states that collect that data by party and found, in effect, that about 1,000,000 people have left the Republican party since 2004, while another 700,000 voters have become Democrats.

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Iowa, the most important swing state in the upper Midwest, has seen Democratic registration grow by about 68,000 since 2004 while Republican registration has dropped by nearly 27,000. (Bush won the state by about 10,000 votes in 2004.) In New Hampshire, which Kerry won in 2004 by about 9,000 votes, Democratic registration is up by 35,000 while new Republican voters number less than 2000. In Nevada, which Bush won by 21,000, Democrats have enrolled 16,000 new voters. Republicans have lost more than 43,000. Does it mean Obama will win these states? No. Does it make it easier to capture them? Certainly.

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All this gives rise to at least one more question: If most of those million fleeing Republicans have become tenuous independents, then who are those 700,000 new Democrats? That is what the DNC is trying to find out. "They are young, they are female, they are new to the process," said a consultant who is trying to dissect this new group for the party elders. "Most of them have come out of nowhere."

Michael Duffy - The Week in Politics Time 20 Jul 08

Out of nowhere?  I'm not so sure.  Read the whole article, it is very interesting.


by Shaun Appleby on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 08:25:16 PM EST

Re: OHIO! (none / 0)

I read an article on Realclearpolitics.com discussing The "Inverted C" in the state of Ohio.  It talks about how Democrats have recently won the Buckeye state by winning big in the counties neighboring Pennsylvania and the Appalachian counties near Kentucky.  What Obama must do to win Ohio is have record turnout numbers in Columbus and Cleveland.  If he does this and holds his own in Akron and Toledo, he will be the next president of these United States of America! Hola


by nzubechukwu on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 08:39:33 PM EST


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